The 16 electoral college votes from Michigan have not been added in yet. Official count currently stands at Trump : 2,279,210 votes and Clinton : 2,267,373 votes - a difference of 11,837 votes in Trump's favor. Because it is so close, the final count won't become official until the end of the month, when the Michigan Board of State Canvassers will certify the results after the county boards complete their work. Only at that point, will the election results be final. (Source: http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/michigan-new-hampshire-arizona-election-results-2016-called-calls-ap-cnn-have-they-been-called-why-havent-returns-votes-recount-trump-clinton-hillary-wisconsin/)
Ohio has 18 Republican seats in the Electoral College (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_electors,_2016#Republican_Party_15) but this list contains only 8, 2 of which (Bill Johnson and Kathy Miller) are not on the Wikipedia list. I'm working on a more comprehensive/accurate database ...
This article contains a list of Ohio and Kentucky electors (sorry no addresses here, but at least the names should be current. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/blogs/2016/11/14/local-electors-were-sticking-trump/93800008/
For Kentucky's Mike Duncan, it has @MikeDuncan listed but going by that guy's twitter, he does not like Trump at all. I think it's the wrong Mike Duncan. The FB for that name seems right though.
FYI: A few of the emails on the Master Email list aren't working. The replies I've received:
No. I'm for Trump.
Alex
____________________________ Alex M. Triantafilou Dinsmore & Shohl 255 E. 5th St, 19th Floor Cincinnati, OH 45202 (513) 977 8446 alex.triantafilou@dinsmore.com Personal: JudgeAlexT@gmail.com
And Bill Conley
This is from myself and another person to someone like you, who wants us to change our vote. We didn't vote for a person, because one person will fail you. We voted for one ideology over another. Are you going to teach your daughter, when she gets older, that murdering a baby in the womb is okay? My guess is, if you ask her at that age, she will say no. You couldn't pay me enough to vote for Hillary and the Democrats. It would go against everything I believe in as a Christian. So, no I would never vote for a Democrat, and certainly not Hillary. My word to vote for the winner of the general election in SC is much more important than your feelings. Feelings change, and I hope yours changes to become a true believer in Christ.
Perfect practice makes perfect performance.
And---------------------------
Below in red font is the response I have been sending to the several emails received, such as yours.
Boy have you got the process wrong. Not surprising.
Each Elector was elected to represent thousands of citizens. This vote is not their "personal opinion". Electors will do their duty and act to complete the decision process which began on November 8 in the General Election.
Nice try though to get Electors to place their personal opinion above the will of the people.
Please note that, in my state, Elector voting is regulated by state law (i.e, Electors are bound by state law in regards to how each will vote).
Also in my state, encouraging someone to violate a law is a CRIME. Since you are encouraging me to violate a state law, I have turned your email request over to the proper legal authorities for their handling as to a legal disposition.
Good luck with that.
Sent from my iPhone 7th Congressional Chairman GOP Jerry Rovner CAPT (USNR/NJSG-ret) Freedom is not Free 609 271 7796
I just heard from Mr. Rovner too. I think the operative law is called the First Amendment. I do expect, however, to hear from the local chapter of his fraternity, the Kappa Kappa Kappas. I didn't expect we would turn anyone from the slave states
Romney and Kasich are a couple of moderate Republicans put forward in this article: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/
Is there any way to get phone numbers for the electors? I think that email & snail mail may just be overlooked, or lumped together & given a form-reply. But if their phones ring & ring & ring, that might make a real impact. See this, written by a former Congressional staffer, about the best way to really get the attention & response from a Congressperson (which, I assume, would apply to anyone in government): http://www.attn.com/stories/12768/former-congressional-staffer-explains-how-to-make-congressman-listen
I just wanted to point out a potential error in the sample letter. I'm pretty sure Trump is NOT losing the popular vote by the biggest margin in history (John Q Adams won the election while losing the popular vote by 10.44%), but he IS currently losing by 0.62% (which is expected to go up) and that would make it the biggest margin since 1888 (Harrison at 0.83%). You might want to consider rewording that part.
Also, here are the states which voted for Donald Trump that do NOT have laws against faithless electors (changing their vote): -Arizona -Arkansas -Georgia -Idaho -Indiana -Iowa -Kansas -Kentucky -Louisiana -Missouri -North Dakota -Pennsylvania -South Dakota -Texas -Utah -West Virginia
Arizonia might be willing to vote for the candidate with the majority vote. In both houses of its state legislature, Arizonia has passed the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact which says that as soon as enough States to equal 270 electoral votes pass the Compact, all those states will vote for the candidate who receives the national majority vote. They would be jumping the gun, but unprecedented times demand unprecedented measures.
Updated info for Ohio elector Marilyn Ashcraft---her home address is 621 Virginia St. Apt 7 Marietta, Ohio 45750
According to 2 newspaper articles, she does not like Donald Trump. Big Kasich fan... She is a RETIRED politician with nothing to lose by voting her conscience. Needs to be convinced to violate Ohio law. She needs a * by her name on the list.
As far as I'm concerned, this is not about the popular vote (as much as I would like Clinton to win). If she were running against Romney (who I do not like), I would not be participating in this. Trump is vastly unqualified and unfit for this office for reasons I mentioned in the letter I plan to send to the electors - but are too numerous to mention here. I would find a Romney presidency (or Bush or Kasich) a relief in comparison.
The Hamilton Electors put forward Romney and Kasich, too. You are spot on! http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/
All Congress got the below hard copy package but keep silent or lie, I would let you know !
Iavaka Trump's best friend Wendi Deng a top Chinese spy. This is national security !!! Do you know how Chairman Mao got the power in China ? It is called “using the rural areas to encircle the cities" using cheating, hate, etc. Check what Trump did this time.
Trump Bay Street is a 50-story luxury rental apartment building being built by Kushner Companies, It hired US Immigration Fund ( Chinese name 美国移民基金 ) together with QiaoWai to seek rich Chinese investors.
This is the Chinese Ads website http://www.qiaowai.net/zhuanti/xzx/
It clearly stated that US Immigration Fund gained support from Obama, Debbie Wasserman -Schultz and Ron Klein in person.
It also stated in the ads that it is the only one that fit for urgent approve by INS due to Hurricane Sandy.
Based on QiaoWai website, it has a lot of EB5 investments in US, such as w57 Manhattan, time square broadway1568, etc. Supporters to QiaoWai not only from Obama, Rudy Giuliani, Debbie Wasserman -Schultz but also from New York Governor David Peterson, Pete Grannis , Formal New York Mayor Bloomberg, etc
QiaoWai website also stated that, Brett Ashcroft-Green, who in charge of US Immigration Fund China part, used to be a staff of Senator Harry Reid.
During interview with QiaoWai CEO dingyingvivian, she claimed that QiaoWai EB5 could be approved in 3 days.
Both Trump or Kushner did not mention Trump New Jersy Bay Street tower Chinese Ads,based on Bloomberg and CNN report.
Also Wendi Deng, Trump daughter best friend is top Chinese Spy.
all details and pictures of Obama with Trump NJ Chinese Ads CEO , Rudy Giuliani
Oh dear, I think the PA elector's name is Gloria Snover, not Glora. Just in case someone doesn't catch that before they address something to "Glora Snover".
cdrjr1@juno.com re: violation of state law Dear Capt. Rovner,
I understand that you are telling people who ask you to cast your Electoral College vote for somebody other than Donald Trump that you are turning their requests over to "the proper legal authorities," presumably so that they can be prosecuted for violating state law. I would like to follow up on this. Can you please tell me what state law is violated, and the name of the person or agency that will be handling the cases?
It should be noted: North Carolina and Michigan have laws that nullify electors if they don't vote for the person they're supposed to. I don't know what the ramifications of this are (whether it means that they assign alternate electors until they get one who votes the right way, or that the vote is nullified/lost).
I just sent a gigantic email and I didn't BCC any of them. What will most likely happen is everyone will be responding via reply all to me and all the electorates until the end of time now. This should be interesting.
Hi everyone: thanks for this amazing tool!! i am working on my letter now. What's mr. rover's email? (so i don't email him). Any other hostile emails i should avoid? I have been tweeting electors before I heard from you guys and you have made my work so much easier!! It's encouraging that so many of us are on the same page!!
So there's two electoral college members based out of WA State who made a group called the Hamilton Electors.(http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/)
Considering this movement and the likely outcomes should they garner 270 votes (a Republican nominee chosen by the electoral college), what would the ideal letter now look like? As much as I would love HRC to be president, at this point, it's almost 'anyone but DJT.'
IDEA: 270 D and R electors coordinate together and go ahead and vote for Romney on 12/19!! The next POTUS is going to be an R and he is the most sane one !!!! Lets' get #ROMNEY2016 trending!
Electors in 29 states cannot change their vote because they are bound by state law. In Michigan, for example, electors that change their vote are immediately replaced. I don't know how they do this, but it's law.
However, in 21 states the electors are not bound by law and can change their votes. It might be wise to concentrate efforts on these 21 states. Here is a site that lists them: http://archive.fairvote.org/?page=967
Trump only has 290. What's up with 306? Am I missing something?
ReplyDeleteThe 16 electoral college votes from Michigan have not been added in yet. Official count currently stands at Trump : 2,279,210 votes and Clinton : 2,267,373 votes - a difference of 11,837 votes in Trump's favor. Because it is so close, the final count won't become official until the end of the month, when the Michigan Board of State Canvassers will certify the results after the county boards complete their work. Only at that point, will the election results be final. (Source: http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/michigan-new-hampshire-arizona-election-results-2016-called-calls-ap-cnn-have-they-been-called-why-havent-returns-votes-recount-trump-clinton-hillary-wisconsin/)
DeleteOhio has 18 Republican seats in the Electoral College (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_electors,_2016#Republican_Party_15) but this list contains only 8, 2 of which (Bill Johnson and Kathy Miller) are not on the Wikipedia list. I'm working on a more comprehensive/accurate database ...
ReplyDeleteThis article contains a list of Ohio and Kentucky electors (sorry no addresses here, but at least the names should be current. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/blogs/2016/11/14/local-electors-were-sticking-trump/93800008/
DeleteFor Kentucky's Mike Duncan, it has @MikeDuncan listed but going by that guy's twitter, he does not like Trump at all. I think it's the wrong Mike Duncan.
ReplyDeleteThe FB for that name seems right though.
Thanks, we'll update.
Deletethank you for doing this - please have Huff Post update your links on their website!
ReplyDeleteFYI: A few of the emails on the Master Email list aren't working. The replies I've received:
ReplyDeleteNo. I'm for Trump.
Alex
____________________________
Alex M. Triantafilou
Dinsmore & Shohl
255 E. 5th St, 19th Floor
Cincinnati, OH 45202
(513) 977 8446
alex.triantafilou@dinsmore.com
Personal: JudgeAlexT@gmail.com
And
Bill Conley
This is from myself and another person to someone like you, who wants us to change our vote.
We didn't vote for a person, because one person will fail you. We voted for one ideology over another. Are you going to teach your daughter, when she gets older, that murdering a baby in the womb is okay? My guess is, if you ask her at that age, she will say no. You couldn't pay me enough to vote for Hillary and the Democrats. It would go against everything I believe in as a Christian. So, no I would never vote for a Democrat, and certainly not Hillary. My word to vote for the winner of the general election in SC is much more important than your feelings. Feelings change, and I hope yours changes to become a true believer in Christ.
Perfect practice makes perfect performance.
And---------------------------
Below in red font is the response I have been sending to the several emails received, such as yours.
Boy have you got the process wrong. Not surprising.
Each Elector was elected to represent thousands of citizens. This vote is not their "personal opinion". Electors will do their duty and act to complete the decision process which began on November 8 in the General Election.
Nice try though to get Electors to place their personal opinion above the will of the people.
Please note that, in my state, Elector voting is regulated by state law (i.e, Electors are bound by state law in regards to how each will vote).
Also in my state, encouraging someone to violate a law is a CRIME. Since you are encouraging me to violate a state law, I have turned your email request over to the proper legal authorities for their handling as to a legal disposition.
Good luck with that.
Sent from my iPhone
7th Congressional Chairman GOP
Jerry Rovner CAPT (USNR/NJSG-ret)
Freedom is not Free
609 271 7796
Which emails aren't working? Thanks!
DeleteI just heard from Mr. Rovner too. I think the operative law is called the First Amendment. I do expect, however, to hear from the local chapter of his fraternity, the Kappa Kappa Kappas. I didn't expect we would turn anyone from the slave states
DeleteYikes. Talk about a harsh response!
DeleteI got the same response from Jerry Rovner, FYI.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/electoral-college-effort-stop-trump-231350
ReplyDeleteDennis Daugaard's website has an email contact form:
ReplyDeletehttp://sd.gov/governor/contact/contact.aspx
We've updated his info. Thanks!
DeleteWho do you think they would write in? Pence would be a different type of disaster, as would Paul Ryan.
ReplyDeleteRomney and Kasich are a couple of moderate Republicans put forward in this article: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/
DeleteIs there any way to get phone numbers for the electors? I think that email & snail mail may just be overlooked, or lumped together & given a form-reply. But if their phones ring & ring & ring, that might make a real impact. See this, written by a former Congressional staffer, about the best way to really get the attention & response from a Congressperson (which, I assume, would apply to anyone in government): http://www.attn.com/stories/12768/former-congressional-staffer-explains-how-to-make-congressman-listen
ReplyDeleteHere's what I've got at the moment:
ReplyDeleteState name phone
Florida Blais Ingoglia 352 688 5004
Florida Christian Ziegler 202 731 7213
Florida Clint Pate 850 527 3900
Florida Debbie Hannifan 863 738 6367
Florida Joe Gruters 941 914 2004
Florida John Browning 386328 7295
Florida Kristy Banks 850 670 1255
Florida LizBeth Benacquisto 239 338 2570
Florida Michael Barnett 561 715 7833
Florida Mike Moberley 352 302 8064
Florida Susan Moore 850 261 4865
Idaho Melinda Smyser 202 224 2752
Kansas Kelly Arnold 316 660 9222
Kansas Mark Kahrs 785 296 5593
Missouri Jan DeWeese 636 343 5360
Missouri Sherry Kuttenkuler 636 359 2808
Ohio Christina Hagan 614 466 9078
Ohio Tracey Winbush 330 720 0000
Pennsylvania Andrew Reilly 610 566 9222
Pennsylvania Ash Khare 814 726 2909
Pennsylvania Carol Sides 570 326 4206
Pennsylvania Carolyn “Bunny” Welsh 610 344 6850
Pennsylvania Elstina Pickett 570 265 3124
Pennsylvania Glora “Lee” Snover 610438 3319
Pennsylvania Lawrence Tabas 215 665 3158
Pennsylvania Mary Barket 717 234 4901 x 169
Pennsylvania Michael Downing 717 234 4901, ext. 147
Pennsylvania Patricia Poprik: 215 345 6811
Pennsylvania Robert Bozzuto 717 234 4901, ext. 140
Pennsylvania Theodore Christian 215 478 1444
Utah Chia Chi Teng 801 422 1297
Utah Kris Kimball 801 278 0366
Utah Richard Snelgrove 801 530 9414, 385 468 7452
West Virginia Ann Urling 304 549 5039
West Virginia Bill Cole 681 265 1102
West Virginia Mac Warner 304 741 0202
West Virginia Patrick Morrisey 304.844.9898
West Virginia Ron Foster 304 206 7901
Wisconsin Dan Feyen 920 517 6029
Wisconsin Kim Travis 62.607.0681
Wisconsin Steve King 608 755 8162
Wyoming Bonnie Foster 307.241.3300
Wyoming Karl Allred 801 560 3628
Try Polly Granzow at polly.granzow@legis.iowa.gov
ReplyDeleteCrap that bounced too.
DeleteI just wanted to point out a potential error in the sample letter. I'm pretty sure Trump is NOT losing the popular vote by the biggest margin in history (John Q Adams won the election while losing the popular vote by 10.44%), but he IS currently losing by 0.62% (which is expected to go up) and that would make it the biggest margin since 1888 (Harrison at 0.83%). You might want to consider rewording that part.
ReplyDeleteAlso, here are the states which voted for Donald Trump that do NOT have laws against faithless electors (changing their vote):
ReplyDelete-Arizona
-Arkansas
-Georgia
-Idaho
-Indiana
-Iowa
-Kansas
-Kentucky
-Louisiana
-Missouri
-North Dakota
-Pennsylvania
-South Dakota
-Texas
-Utah
-West Virginia
Arizonia might be willing to vote for the candidate with the majority vote. In both houses of its state legislature, Arizonia has passed the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact which says that as soon as enough States to equal 270 electoral votes pass the Compact, all those states will vote for the candidate who receives the national majority vote. They would be jumping the gun, but unprecedented times demand unprecedented measures.
ReplyDeleteUpdated info for Ohio elector Marilyn Ashcraft---her home address is
ReplyDelete621 Virginia St. Apt 7
Marietta, Ohio 45750
According to 2 newspaper articles, she does not like Donald Trump. Big Kasich fan... She is a RETIRED politician with nothing to lose by voting her conscience. Needs to be convinced to violate Ohio law. She needs a * by her name on the list.
As far as I'm concerned, this is not about the popular vote (as much as I would like Clinton to win). If she were running against Romney (who I do not like), I would not be participating in this. Trump is vastly unqualified and unfit for this office for reasons I mentioned in the letter I plan to send to the electors - but are too numerous to mention here. I would find a Romney presidency (or Bush or Kasich) a relief in comparison.
ReplyDeleteThe Hamilton Electors put forward Romney and Kasich, too. You are spot on! http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/
DeleteAll Congress got the below hard copy package but keep silent or lie, I would let you know !
DeleteIavaka Trump's best friend Wendi Deng a top Chinese spy. This is national security !!! Do you know how Chairman Mao got the power in China ? It is called “using the rural areas to encircle the cities" using cheating, hate, etc. Check what Trump did this time.
Trump Bay Street is a 50-story luxury rental apartment building being built by Kushner Companies, It hired US Immigration Fund ( Chinese name 美国移民基金 ) together with QiaoWai to seek rich Chinese investors.
This is the Chinese Ads website http://www.qiaowai.net/zhuanti/xzx/
It clearly stated that US Immigration Fund gained support from Obama, Debbie Wasserman -Schultz and Ron Klein in person.
It also stated in the ads that it is the only one that fit for urgent approve by INS due to Hurricane Sandy.
Based on QiaoWai website, it has a lot of EB5 investments in US, such as w57 Manhattan, time square broadway1568, etc. Supporters to QiaoWai not only from Obama, Rudy Giuliani, Debbie Wasserman -Schultz but also from New York Governor David Peterson, Pete Grannis , Formal New York Mayor Bloomberg, etc
QiaoWai website also stated that, Brett Ashcroft-Green, who in charge of US Immigration Fund China part, used to be a staff of Senator Harry Reid.
During interview with QiaoWai CEO dingyingvivian, she claimed that QiaoWai EB5 could be approved in 3 days.
Both Trump or Kushner did not mention Trump New Jersy Bay Street tower Chinese Ads,based on Bloomberg and CNN report.
Also Wendi Deng, Trump daughter best friend is top Chinese Spy.
all details and pictures of Obama with Trump NJ Chinese Ads CEO , Rudy Giuliani
https://www.facebook.com/HongWang-1744893469065358/?ref=aymt_homepage_panel
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/08/news/companies/donald-trump-wealthy-chinese-visas/
Thanks for protect USA freedom !
hong
Have you gotten any responses? I got one really threatening, nasty one
ReplyDeleteOh dear, I think the PA elector's name is Gloria Snover, not Glora. Just in case someone doesn't catch that before they address something to "Glora Snover".
ReplyDeleteP.S. Thanks for getting all this info together.
I got the warning auto response from Mr Rovner as well. Any substance to that?
ReplyDeletecdrjr1@juno.com
Deletere: violation of state law
Dear Capt. Rovner,
I understand that you are telling people who ask you to cast your Electoral College vote for somebody other than Donald Trump that you are turning their requests over to "the proper legal authorities," presumably so that they can be prosecuted for violating state law. I would like to follow up on this. Can you please tell me what state law is violated, and the name of the person or agency that will be handling the cases?
Thank you for your help in this matter.
Sincerely,
Stephen Malinowski
It should be noted: North Carolina and Michigan have laws that nullify electors if they don't vote for the person they're supposed to. I don't know what the ramifications of this are (whether it means that they assign alternate electors until they get one who votes the right way, or that the vote is nullified/lost).
ReplyDeleteI just sent a gigantic email and I didn't BCC any of them. What will most likely happen is everyone will be responding via reply all to me and all the electorates until the end of time now. This should be interesting.
ReplyDeleteHi everyone: thanks for this amazing tool!! i am working on my letter now. What's mr. rover's email? (so i don't email him). Any other hostile emails i should avoid? I have been tweeting electors before I heard from you guys and you have made my work so much easier!! It's encouraging that so many of us are on the same page!!
ReplyDeletenever mind my message above, i continued reading above and got Rover's email: cdrjr1@juno.com
ReplyDeleteSo there's two electoral college members based out of WA State who made a group called the Hamilton Electors.(http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/)
ReplyDeleteConsidering this movement and the likely outcomes should they garner 270 votes (a Republican nominee chosen by the electoral college), what would the ideal letter now look like? As much as I would love HRC to be president, at this point, it's almost 'anyone but DJT.'
IDEA: 270 D and R electors coordinate together and go ahead and vote for Romney on 12/19!! The next POTUS is going to be an R and he is the most sane one !!!! Lets' get #ROMNEY2016 trending!
ReplyDeleteIn PA, Richard Stewart is here:
ReplyDeletehttp://johnsonduffie.com/professionals/details.php?id=8
James McErlane is probably here:
https://www.lambmcerlane.com/attorneys/james-e-mcerlane/
These are not on your master list.
Peter Greathouse of Utah's Contact info: Peter Greathouse
ReplyDeletePO Box 40265
Lynndyl, UT 84640
petergreathouse@netscape.net
435-857-2555
Electors in 29 states cannot change their vote because they are bound by state law. In Michigan, for example, electors that change their vote are immediately replaced. I don't know how they do this, but it's law.
ReplyDeleteHowever, in 21 states the electors are not bound by law and can change their votes. It might be wise to concentrate efforts on these 21 states. Here is a site that lists them: http://archive.fairvote.org/?page=967
I believe this is the contact information for Georgia elector
ReplyDeleteBruce Allen Azevedo
Phone: 706-296-3835
I believe this is the contact information for Georgia elector
ReplyDeleteBruce Allen Azevedo
Phone: 706-296-3835