miraclevisor@msn.com, larry.ahern@myfloridahouse.gov
Is this for all electors expected to vote with Trump, or only those in those 21 states that allow for Faithless Electors? Doing some reading, I realize that the penalty in the remaining states and DC is generally small - a fine of $500 - $1000 - and some electors from those other states might also be willing to vote their conscience or abstain.
ReplyDeleteWe should be appealing to those in all states. There are other comments on other pages here, with one saying that a group (I forget what group) is willing to pay the fees, and another saying that some believe the fees are unconstitutional. And they should be! The whole point of the Electoral College is to ensure that someone who is unfit and unqualified is not elected by the people. Sorry this is vague, but if you poke around the other pages here, you'll find other comments that address your question.
DeleteWe need a #Kickstarter campaign for those patriotic #FaithlessElectors!
DeleteI hate to use a giant list, but I have a feeling I will never send my letter out otherwise. I would suggest that anyone who does this be careful to use the "BCC" function. It just doesn't look so good when it's visibly clear that you are sending an email to a gigantic list.
ReplyDeleteNormally I would agree, as it has a somewhat unprofessional look, but in this case I wanted everyone on that list to see everyone else, so they would understand how important and non-partisan this is. This isn't about sour grapes. It's about keeping a petulant, hateful con man out of the white house, for the good of everyone.
DeleteSome of the emails are not working - bill@billcoleforwv.com, pfeaman@adelphia.net, ray.rodrigues@myfloridahouse.org,
ReplyDeletecarlos.trujillo@myfloridahouse.org
Please Electors use your conscience and great mind I am not a immigrant. I am Native American enrolled in comanche Tribe since birth. He scarred me when he said he was running for president. I do not like others want to live in fear for the next 4 years. You can change your vote make history.
ReplyDeleteI sent my letter to them and also included all the local tv news tips desks here in NYC when I sent it. I want them to know that the media is watching and knows who they are!
ReplyDeleteFrank Strickland has an automatic reply on his email which reads:
ReplyDeleteI will be out of the office from November 16-20. If you need assistance on a client matter, please contact Anne Lewis at AWL@SBLLAW.NET.
If you are contacting me about the Electoral College, I will not respond and ask that you take me off your list.
Frank
Bill Conley replied: Sorry, pasted phone number for something else.
ReplyDeleteFounding Fathers wanted to make sure highly populated cities didn't have total control of the election. We have proven their point. If not for Electoral College, candidates would only visit large cities and the rest of the country would have no say.
No, I am required by my pledge to uphold the voter's desires, which means more than your personal request. If we went that tour, why have an election. The electoral college was put in place to keep areas with large populations from controlling the election. The people have spoken, whether or not you like it, and that vote should stand.
He's a piece of shit. I responded back to him stating facts, not his stupid drivel. He's an asshole.
DeleteJust got the same reply back from Bill Conley and a very rude reply back from Michael Barnett:
DeleteNo chance. First, I won't cast a vote that could help make Hillary president. Second, I'm absolutely ecstatic about a Trump presidency and what he will do and has already accomplished. Third, I don't like the federal government taxing my very hard earned pay beyond what is reasonable and necessary. I don't like being penalized for being unable to afford awful Obamacare. I don't like being told what light bulbs to use in my house, what temperature to keep my thermostat on, what I can or cannot grow in my own backyard, or what I can and cannot say or think. I don't like being told by people like you I'm a racist bigot or a sexist or a homophobe or a xenophobe simply because my opinions differ from yours. I don't like seeing my country ruined economically and being made dangerously unsafe due to drugs, crime, political correctness, erosion of our morals and American culture, and threats of terrorism. We have lost many freedoms in this country over the last 28 years and I swear Donald Trump will get my vote on December 19.
Thank you for your email. Enjoy the holidays.
Note: I in no way inferred that he or anyone else was a racist, homophobe, sexist, etc. I just said that people I know and love are afraid of a Trump presidency and that Trump has set a terrible precedent for the behavior of future candidates. I emphasized Trump's unfitness to serve and I said nothing about the people who voted for him.
What a stupid ass. His letter basically says, "I don't want to pay taxes (even though I expect people much poorer than me to), I don't want to make any sacrifices in order to save our planet (my comfort is more important), and I want to be able to think and say racist and misogynist things without anyone telling me it's bad." LOST MANY FREEDOMS?? Like WHAT? The freedom to say the N word without judgement? The freedom to treat women like property? Just, total gag. He is the epitome of a Republican. Total sicko, gross, worthless piece of humanity.
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Deletegreat post
Jeff Cardwell wrote: “I would like to congratulate President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence on their decisive win in Indiana on November 8, 2016!”
ReplyDelete"We are one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. As we step out in this new journey for America's future, now is the time, to work together to heal our land. We are grateful for the opportunity to serve, and we look forward to working with all Hoosiers from all walks of life to take Indiana and America to the next level. There is so much more that binds us than that which divides us.
"The voters have spoken- and we are humbled that they have chosen our entire Republican ticket- Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Todd Young, Eric Holcomb, Suzanne Crouch, Curtis Hill, Jennifer McCormick and all of our congressmen and women to govern here at home and represent their best interests in Washington, D.C. We look forward to having a partner in the White House- together we will make America Safe, Strong, Prosperous and Great Again."
Jeff Cardwell, Chairman
Indiana Republican Party
others which did not reach the destination were: The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:
ReplyDelete'vondene@bresnan.net' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'wyerger@bellsouth.net' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'tl862@reagan.com' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'tomeallentom@netscape.net' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'votemarianstanko@gmail.com' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'tinagibsonsd17srec@gmail.com' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'tomknightnow@aol.com' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'wsellers@balch.com' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'wadsworth@centurytel.net' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
'tommyland@sbcglobal.net' on 18/11/2016 7:25 PM
they site "too many recipients" error
That's coming from your email server. Use mail chimp if you want to mail more than 100 people at once.
DeleteYes, Bill Conley, the people voted and Clinton won. It is called the popular vote.
ReplyDeleteThe point of the Electoral College is that people don't vote, States do. That was it's intent - to have the States, not the people at large, elect a President. Note that the Constitution does not grant the people the right to vote for the President at all. At the beginning, 5 States selected their Presidential electors via a vote in their State legislatures (as all Senators were chosen until the 1912 passage of the 17th Amendment). That method was not completely abandoned by all the States until after 1860. It's still valid; unless your State Constitution provides otherwise your State could switch to that today. Again, you have no right under the Constitution to vote for President, so the fact that the popular vote favored Hillary Clinton is immaterial. States elect the President, not the people.
DeleteDon't plead to people on this page, plead to the electors directly via email.
ReplyDeleteThat jackass sent me the same bullshit email
ReplyDeleteBill Conley is a dick. He's also on Twitter! :)
ReplyDeleteHere's his Twitter: @scbconley
He talks poorly about liberals and is a Trump supporter who says he won't change his vote because it's illegal. He's a piece of trash evangelical Xtian just like Pence.
Being abusive is counterproductive. Attacking or labeling those who disagree simply furthers the ultra-divisiveness. Cool, polite facts are more effective.
ReplyDeleteThank you for this comment. The argument of the Progressive side in this debacle is damaged, tarnished, trashed by trash talk, rude name-calling, and ugly attitudes. If you feel you're in the right, act like a stand-up person, not a gutter-snipe.
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ReplyDeleteJoe Gruters (R, SC) gave me a courteous reply and stated diplomatically that he would vote for Donald J. Trump.
DeleteJerry Rovner (R, FL) sarcasticlly replied that he would vote for Trump. He also said he had forwarded my name to the authorities because it's a crime (he put crime in bold caps) to try to sway someone's vote. Rovner strikes me as a bully, to sayy the least!
There seems to be a misapprehension regarding the significance of the popular vote and the purpose of the Electoral College. The point of the Electoral College is that people don't vote, States do. It was specifically created to take the decision OUT of the hands of the general populace and away from the results of any popular vote and have the States, not the people at large, elect a President. Note that I say "any popular vote", not "the popular vote". The Constitution does not grant the people the right to vote for the President at all. At the beginning, 5 States selected their Presidential electors via a vote in their State legislatures (as all Senators were chosen until the 1912 passage of the 17th Amendment). That method was not completely abandoned by all the States until after 1860. It's still valid; unless your State Constitution provides otherwise your State could switch to that today. Again, you have no right under the Constitution to vote for President, so the fact that the popular vote favored Hillary Clinton is immaterial from the viewpoint of the Constitution. States elect the President, not the people.
ReplyDeleteThen why have the second step of having electors vote? Why not just "allocate" the popular vote according to the electoral college rate?
DeleteYou people have no right harassing ordinary American folks and putting their emails here. You all need to accept your loss because at the end of the day, Trump wins.
ReplyDeleteWith even 47% of a 58% turnout only 27% of registered voters actually voted for Trump. Clinton got more votes Trump, as the recounts proceed Trumps tallies keep going down but what troubles me most of all is that he, like Clinton, is unfit to be president. Neither of them should have been running for the white house, both should have been running from the big house - they're both as crooked as three dollar bills. That's why I'm urging electors to vote for Bernie Sanders who was the clear choice of the people.
DeleteAs to "harassing ordinary American folks", these people were elected to represent us in the electoral college. As such they should be prepared to hear from those they are representing - although that does not give people contacting them license to be disrespectful.
If you look at what the Constitution says about the electoral college (see archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/provisions.html) you'll see that the founders did not constrain the electors' judgement, and I've no doubt they would be outraged that states would take it upon themselves to do so.
Based on the incredibly polite wording of all these letters which just shines the light on what Donald J. Trump actually did & said while campaigning for president, he is not garnering the respect from many ordinary American folks or officials in other countries who depend on us to be respectful and trustworthy. He has already gone back on many of the promises he made to those who supported him while he sought ther presidency.
ReplyDeleteYour list ends with a comma and seems to contain about 100 addresses, I suspect it has been truncated.
ReplyDeleteyeah, I think there are email addresses on this list that aren't electoral college members. the stupid response that I just got from one of them would strongly indicate this. Booo! So, much for making a difference with them.
ReplyDeleteThis updates the list, removing three of the people mentioned as hostile. (I couldn't detect Gruten in the mix.)
ReplyDeletemiraclevisor@msn.com
larry.ahern@myfloridahouse.gov
benacquisto.lizbeth@flsenate.gov
nickdiceglie@gmail.com
smm2043@gmail.com
chairman@rpocitrus.org
smm2043@gmail.com
joenegron@joenegron.com
pateclint@yahoo.com
ray.rodrigues@myfloridahouse.org
christian@christiangop.com
sbeckley@indiana.gop
laura@hamiltoncountygop.org
Donald.hayes@twc.com
rlkpatrick55@gmail.com
ethan_manning@yahoo.com
chuck@clwilliamscompanies.com
mark.kahrs@house.ks.gov
mark@kahrsforkansas.com
info@trahanlaw.com
kellyarnold@yahoo.com
ron@treasurer.ks.gov
louisavallone@mac.com
lharsch@nobts.edu
info@montinotary.com
nancyballance@aol.com
vondene@bresnan.net
mkash@suddenlink.net
cbpolitical@gmail.com
rep50@ohiohouse.gov
benjamin.keeler@mail.house.gov
judgealext@gmail.com
gwiland@tulsagop.org
kellym2377@yahoo.com
wyerger@bellsouth.net
craig@trisag.com
tl862@reagan.com
cstaley@ltdkate.com
sails@northstate.net
ccstanley1@aol.com
marthanjenkins@gmail.com
Lee.Green@ncgopdcca.org
dmutch@state.nd.us
olsonpc@midco.net
chairman@scgop.com
glenn.a.mccall@gmail.com
cdrjr1@juno.com
atghelp@state.sd.us
jason.mumpower@cot.tn.gov
c.holiway@att.net
cedesigners@frontiernet.net
tomeallentom@netscape.net
gopdrewster@att.net
pfrw@comcast.net
rex.lamb@yahoo.com
scottmann@verizon.net
votemarianstanko@gmail.com
tinagibsonsd17srec@gmail.com
info@alexkim.com
tomknightnow@aol.com
Marian.knowlton@gmail.com
rteter@dpisd.org
jon@jewettnevada.com
RSnelgrove@slco.org
ccteng@byu.edu
kriskimball.kk@gmail.com
loren.byers@verizon.net
rrfforputnamcounty@gmail.com
rrfforcommissioner@gmail.com
info@patrickmorrisey.com
ann@annurling.com
info@billcoleforwv.com
gradylaurat@aol.com
perryo@palomarins.com
wsellers@balch.com
wadsworth@centurytel.net
jepeters65@knology.net
info@seanparnellak.com
arwcyes@yahoo.com
jwo@ronnoco3.com
jane518@cox.net
paddywagon@cox.net
Jdsjonelle@aol.com
keithg@pinncom.com
swright028@yahoo.com
tommyland@sbcglobal.net
nabholz@nabholz.com
jj.skaggs@twc.com
lasleywarrengop@gmail.com
medsingleton@gmail.com
caleb.lakey@itd.idaho.gov
John.P.Browning@sjrwmd.com
info@kbblawfl.com
bash@paulashmgt.com
gyclerk@centurytel.net
frank.strickland@sbllaw.com
debbie9mccord@gmail.com
bobbie@bdfrantz.com
bburdette@doe.k12.ga.us
robert.graham@azgop.org
agutier@azgohs.gov
ddecampgop@gmail.com
How many of those are drmocrats?
DeleteWhat is the source of this information?
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ReplyDeleteHere is 1 response I got:
ReplyDeleteI’m sorry, but my duty is to the people of Florida. Florida’s electoral votes were unanimously voted for Trump.
As the state goes so goes the electoral college. I have no responsibilities for the fact that the majority of the votes that
you claim makes Clinton the winner were cast in 2 states, California and New York.
I hazard to guess if the roles were reversed you would not want to change your vote.
I considered Obama unfit for office – he had no experience, he never worked and his Senatorial career consisted of voted “here” on
multiple subjects brought before the Senate. He disregarded the wants and needs of the people and put our law enforcement in
danger with his rhetoric.
Obama’s close ties to middle eastern countries put our country in danger and we continue to fear in our country and homes because
of his lack of understanding of the danger he has put us in.
I’m sure you do not see the comparison that I’ve made, which is why your request will be denied.
Obama made his point clearly 8 years ago after the election, “ I won, you lost, get over it,” – nuff said.
This List is spamming people who have nothing to do with the electoral college!!! Stop using it
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone have a list of the GOP Elector Twitter Handles? I had wanted to tweet out only the most conservatively-sourced influential opposition from GOP Defense experts, etc.
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